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		<title>Comment on Read this, dammit! by Robert</title>
		<link>http://grippinglyauthentic.com/books-were-reading/#comment-2593</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 03:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You wrote &quot;Reza Azlan’s brilliant book is an invitation to understand the history and evolution of Islam, and a tool to achieve greater tolerance toward anyone outside our own borders, skin color, and socioreligious frames of reference. Western views have trumpeted their correctness over what we percieve to be barbarism in other countries, overlooking our own barbaric acts throughout history and to the present. No god but God provides a framework with which to consider the worlds largest religion with consice and incredibly absorbable information, and the importance of informed consideration has never been more needed.&quot;

This is farcical -- or it would be if it weren&#039;t so utterly misguided and dangerous a notion.

It&#039;s disingenuous (if not ludicrous) to play the &quot;we (Westerners, Christians, humanists, liberals -- take your pick) did bad things in the past, so we can&#039;t point fingers now&quot; game of ethical relativism. Sorry, but no. It&#039;s a fact that NOW, in 2011, that Islam is the greatest impediment to human rights, equality and basic decency in the world. It&#039;s a fact that Islam institutionally marginalizes women and demonizes anyone who isn&#039;t exactly heterosexual (despite the fact that so many paragons of Muhammadan &quot;virtues&quot; are also pederasts). It&#039;s a fact that Islam is utterly intolerant of differences of opinion, of heterodoxy, of criticism, even of satire. Do you know what Islam demands for apostasy? Death. How do you plan to spin that in your &quot;noble savage &quot;fantasy of Islam? Indeed, the odds are that you yourself would be condemned to death by Muslim clergy for your own lifestyle (pre/extra-marital sex? Alcohol? Blasphemy?)

In short, the &quot;informed consideration&quot; you are suggesting that we non-Muslims need is precisely inverted: what is needed is for Islam and Muslims is an &quot;informed consideration&quot; with which to recognize that it is no longer the Medieval era, that women deserve equal rights in EVERY arena, that any culture worth its salt must embrace differences of opinion, and that there must be a wall of separation between church and state (as Thomas Jefferson wrote) that precludes clerics from passing and enforcing death sentences on women rape victims or homosexuals, or demanding fatwas against cartoonists. 

Let me know when Islam has managed to catch up with the 21st (or even the 17th) century world. I&#039;m sure that their doing so will do more than a thousand apologist tomes like Reza Aslan&#039;s to bring the West into some form of respect for a religion that, at present, thinks and acts as if it is still the 7th century. Muslim enablers in the West such as you are too full of self-congratulatory in your fantasy of being &quot;tolerant&quot; of the world&#039;s least tolerant faith to recognize that you&#039;re more than traitors to the West and its freedoms of expression; you&#039;re traitors to anything like good sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote &#8220;Reza Azlan’s brilliant book is an invitation to understand the history and evolution of Islam, and a tool to achieve greater tolerance toward anyone outside our own borders, skin color, and socioreligious frames of reference. Western views have trumpeted their correctness over what we percieve to be barbarism in other countries, overlooking our own barbaric acts throughout history and to the present. No god but God provides a framework with which to consider the worlds largest religion with consice and incredibly absorbable information, and the importance of informed consideration has never been more needed.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is farcical &#8212; or it would be if it weren&#8217;t so utterly misguided and dangerous a notion.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s disingenuous (if not ludicrous) to play the &#8220;we (Westerners, Christians, humanists, liberals &#8212; take your pick) did bad things in the past, so we can&#8217;t point fingers now&#8221; game of ethical relativism. Sorry, but no. It&#8217;s a fact that NOW, in 2011, that Islam is the greatest impediment to human rights, equality and basic decency in the world. It&#8217;s a fact that Islam institutionally marginalizes women and demonizes anyone who isn&#8217;t exactly heterosexual (despite the fact that so many paragons of Muhammadan &#8220;virtues&#8221; are also pederasts). It&#8217;s a fact that Islam is utterly intolerant of differences of opinion, of heterodoxy, of criticism, even of satire. Do you know what Islam demands for apostasy? Death. How do you plan to spin that in your &#8220;noble savage &#8220;fantasy of Islam? Indeed, the odds are that you yourself would be condemned to death by Muslim clergy for your own lifestyle (pre/extra-marital sex? Alcohol? Blasphemy?)</p>
<p>In short, the &#8220;informed consideration&#8221; you are suggesting that we non-Muslims need is precisely inverted: what is needed is for Islam and Muslims is an &#8220;informed consideration&#8221; with which to recognize that it is no longer the Medieval era, that women deserve equal rights in EVERY arena, that any culture worth its salt must embrace differences of opinion, and that there must be a wall of separation between church and state (as Thomas Jefferson wrote) that precludes clerics from passing and enforcing death sentences on women rape victims or homosexuals, or demanding fatwas against cartoonists. </p>
<p>Let me know when Islam has managed to catch up with the 21st (or even the 17th) century world. I&#8217;m sure that their doing so will do more than a thousand apologist tomes like Reza Aslan&#8217;s to bring the West into some form of respect for a religion that, at present, thinks and acts as if it is still the 7th century. Muslim enablers in the West such as you are too full of self-congratulatory in your fantasy of being &#8220;tolerant&#8221; of the world&#8217;s least tolerant faith to recognize that you&#8217;re more than traitors to the West and its freedoms of expression; you&#8217;re traitors to anything like good sense.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Intelligent Belief in Evaluation by Connecting &#8211; Part 4: All spin of one kind or another &#124; Art21 Blog</title>
		<link>http://grippinglyauthentic.com/educating-for-intelligent-belief-in-evaluation-by-thomas-a-schwandt-university-of-illinois-at-urbana-champaign/#comment-2027</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Connecting &#8211; Part 4: All spin of one kind or another &#124; Art21 Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the annual meeting of the American Evaluation Association before 1,600 of his colleagues. Entitled Educating for Intelligent Belief in Evaluation, the address [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on This changes everything. Again by Cathi Bouzide</title>
		<link>http://grippinglyauthentic.com/2010/11/18/this-changes-everything-again/#comment-2017</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathi Bouzide]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 20:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Loved The Yes Men and it took an artist from Slovakia to tell me about it!  Why isn&#039;t it &quot;out&quot; more!?!?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved The Yes Men and it took an artist from Slovakia to tell me about it!  Why isn&#8217;t it &#8220;out&#8221; more!?!?</p>
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		<title>Comment on To Nancy from Sue. by ryan</title>
		<link>http://grippinglyauthentic.com/2010/09/27/to-nancy-from-sue/#comment-960</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand the word of caution regarding intoxication, but the hat….  Could the hat be a function of the intoxication?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the word of caution regarding intoxication, but the hat….  Could the hat be a function of the intoxication?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ware there&#8217;s a will, there&#8217;s a way. by christopher</title>
		<link>http://grippinglyauthentic.com/2010/04/23/ware-theres-a-will-theres-a-way/#comment-513</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[christopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This would make a great poster. Something to put next to that old &quot;Democracy&quot; poster spelled with corporate logos, but pretty enough to frame and hang by itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would make a great poster. Something to put next to that old &#8220;Democracy&#8221; poster spelled with corporate logos, but pretty enough to frame and hang by itself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Anima of Amanita. by christopher</title>
		<link>http://grippinglyauthentic.com/2010/06/27/the-anima-of-amanita/#comment-512</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[christopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These images from the game also remind me of Jan Svankmejer&#039;s worlds, if they were crossed with that other sci-fi classic from Czechoslovakia: Fantastic Planet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These images from the game also remind me of Jan Svankmejer&#8217;s worlds, if they were crossed with that other sci-fi classic from Czechoslovakia: Fantastic Planet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Buried treasure. by gwynne johnson</title>
		<link>http://grippinglyauthentic.com/2010/06/30/buried-treasure/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gwynne johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 01:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i saw these at Los Manos a couple of weeks ago.
beautiful, Scott!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i saw these at Los Manos a couple of weeks ago.<br />
beautiful, Scott!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The art of Machinarium by The Anima of Amanita. &#171; grippingly authentic!</title>
		<link>http://grippinglyauthentic.com/the-art-of-amanita-designs-machinarium/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Anima of Amanita. &#171; grippingly authentic!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] See more images from Machinarium. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] See more images from Machinarium. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ware there&#8217;s a will, there&#8217;s a way. by Russ</title>
		<link>http://grippinglyauthentic.com/2010/04/23/ware-theres-a-will-theres-a-way/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 06:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh yeah, I saw this, too.  Awesome!  Reminds me of Winston Smith&#039;s drawing of Lady Liberty for the Bedtime for Democracy cover back in the day: 

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uW50wIuHW5E/ScetwqzMEiI/AAAAAAAACoM/mM09tQvh0Tg/s1600-h/dead+kennedys+bed+time+for+democracy.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, I saw this, too.  Awesome!  Reminds me of Winston Smith&#8217;s drawing of Lady Liberty for the Bedtime for Democracy cover back in the day: </p>
<p><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uW50wIuHW5E/ScetwqzMEiI/AAAAAAAACoM/mM09tQvh0Tg/s1600-h/dead+kennedys+bed+time+for+democracy.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uW50wIuHW5E/ScetwqzMEiI/AAAAAAAACoM/mM09tQvh0Tg/s1600-h/dead+kennedys+bed+time+for+democracy.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Perceptions from a master of deception. by Russ</title>
		<link>http://grippinglyauthentic.com/2010/03/31/perceptions-from-a-master-of-deception/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 03:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, great post!  It was both gripping and authentic, although in this case I&#039;m not sure which to use adverbially.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, great post!  It was both gripping and authentic, although in this case I&#8217;m not sure which to use adverbially.</p>
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